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Jun. 29th, 2010

12:05 pm - Plumber's Union blocks waterless urinal

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Plumbing codes never contemplated a urinal without water. As a result, Falcon’s fixtures couldn’t be installed legally in most parts of the country. Krug assumed it would be a routine matter to amend the model codes on which most state and city codes are based, but Massey and other plumbers began to argue vehemently against it. The reason the urinal hadn’t changed in decades was because it worked, they argued. Urine could be dangerous, Massey said, and the urinal was not something to trifle with. As a result, in 2003 the organizations that administer the two dominant model codes in the US rejected Falcon’s request to permit installation of waterless urinals. “The plumbers blindsided us,” Krug says. “We didn’t understand what we were up against.
via wired.com

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From:ernunnos
Date:June 29th, 2010 09:26 pm (UTC)
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Finally, a justification for unions.

Worst invention ever. Yeah, let's replace running water and 30-year plumbing with plastic, blue pipe-clogging chemicals, and constant human labor. And that's the best case scenario. I don't believe the problems with these things is just a matter of insufficient maintenance.
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From:visgoth
Date:June 29th, 2010 09:36 pm (UTC)
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It isn't always BS. A lot of places have had unexpected problems with waterless urinals because the technology is new enough surprises still crop up.

It's easy to say the plumber's unions are greedy bastards, but as is usually the case, it isn't really that cut and dried.
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From:crasch
Date:June 29th, 2010 09:49 pm (UTC)
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Right. You think if waterless urinals didn't cut into plumber profits they would be opposed?
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From:visgoth
Date:June 29th, 2010 09:59 pm (UTC)
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I think there isn't a strong profit motive. I'm just saying it doesn't end there.
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From:neoteny
Date:June 29th, 2010 10:53 pm (UTC)
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I think this tidbit speaks volumes:

"When the code change was finally approved in 2009, it stated that water had to be piped to the waterless urinals. Standard plumbing still has to be done, but the water pipe is simply capped off behind the wall and never used."
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From:kenshi
Date:June 30th, 2010 07:08 pm (UTC)
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Waterless urinals are terrible, and I refuse to spec them for my projects.
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