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Sep. 25th, 2008

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If you’ve enjoyed Oleg Volk’s pictures as much as I have, you may wish to know that he could use your help.

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From:merccom
Date:September 25th, 2008 05:21 pm (UTC)
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women have it so easy, all they have to do is wear a dress and they get to carry a gun anywhere! ;)

sorry, couldn't help it.
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From:daphnep
Date:September 25th, 2008 07:20 pm (UTC)
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Ha! I thought "Fundamentalist Mormons are immune from gun laws?"

He should add dates. The picture on the left is way too modern in spite of the dress, the slick photography style alone obscures the point. The cat, while cute, obscures it even more.
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From:joblessmusician
Date:September 25th, 2008 09:02 pm (UTC)
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She needs a bonnet, and to be sitting in an old rocking chair, knitting (with the cat on her lap, of course). Then it'd look a little more authentic.
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From:daphnep
Date:September 25th, 2008 09:12 pm (UTC)
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Or if it was just a little more raw...faded, and sepia toned, with a front and center composition (the way everyone took photos, for years and years, until they didn't any more). Or if the model looked more vintage.

It's a crisp black and white photograph of a very contemporary woman kneeling on a floor in an old dress (goth costume?) with a gun and a cat, in studio lighting, no less. I thought it was a portrait of a specific person in the news I just didn't know about, yet.

Edited at 2008-09-25 09:13 pm (UTC)
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From:joblessmusician
Date:September 25th, 2008 09:26 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, I was confused at first, too. Then, I realized that, in the old days, cats were lethal fluffy killing machines.
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From:infrogmation
Date:September 25th, 2008 11:05 pm (UTC)
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Agreed; see comment below. Sepia effect isn't enough; the whole pose just doesn't look like what would have been done a century and a quarter or century and a half (whatever it's supposed to be) ago. There are lots of subtleties that make the big difference between something looking vaguely old-timey (in the manner of people of today who enjoy a few retro touches in style) and actually looking like something from an earlier era. I suggested changing the caption to simply SAY what era this is refering to.
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From:infrogmation
Date:September 25th, 2008 10:29 pm (UTC)

Who are they?

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Okay, I plead ignorance and don't recognize either of those women and don't know their story. I didn't find an explanation at the link.

Clue/story/context, please?

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From:infrogmation
Date:September 25th, 2008 11:00 pm (UTC)

Re: Who are they?

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Okay, I found it at this post

Probably because I work with archival materials a lot and have internalized some of the subtleties, despite the model's old-timey dress and gun style, a split second look says it is clearly a recent photo, and it didn't occur to me that the photographer intended the audience to mistake it for something it wasn't.

I suggested a change in caption, something like "In 18XX [whatever year relevent] her right to self-defense was recognized by all states" / "Now it isn't".
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From:daphnep
Date:September 25th, 2008 11:17 pm (UTC)

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Yeah, exactly. They're both great photos, but nothing about the one on the left said "In the past..."

And when you're looking at it going "what does the goth kitty girl have that the tattooed girl doesn't?" the whole point gets missed, sadly.
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From:reichart
Date:September 27th, 2008 04:28 am (UTC)

Re: Who are they?

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If you go back to the source of the image, I tweaked it to be more...engaging...


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