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Jun. 30th, 2008

12:01 am - Wall-E, Herbivore, Salsa, Places in the Heart

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WALL-E is superb. Go see it!

****POSSIBLE MILD SPOILERS****
My only criticism: I thought it had an excessively pessimistic view of the future of humanity. The movie depicted humans as rotund, bland cruise ship passengers, incapable of even walking without the help of their ubiquitous robot servants. And due to reckless disregard for the environment, the earth has been turned into a gigantic toxic waste dump.

I don’t think that’s happening. If anything, I think humans have become much more capable, complex beings than they were 100 years ago. And the environment is cleaner now (in the west), due to increases in wealth and knowledge. And I expect that trend to continue, as we become ever more efficient.
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Today, I had lunch today with James, Kim, Alex, Darryl, and Kai, in honor of Alex’s soon departure for London. We were originally scheduled to have brunch at Universal, but it was too crowded. So, at Kai’s suggestion, we relocated to Herbivore. I had the green papaya salad. I’d never had it before, and I was expecting a green salad, with chunks of papaya added. It was, in fact, a huge mound of shredded papaya. A little would’ve been okay, but as an entire dish it was too much. I liked the decor though, and everyone else seemed to like their dishes. I’d go again.

It was fun to watch Kim’s reactions to the boy talk.

Immediately afterward I had private salsa lessons. I really should film myself. I’m sure my moves right now are comic gold.

After salsa, a nap.

Then dinner with Carly, Doug and Marcus. They’ve been in the typical new baby hermit mode–this was the first time I’ve hung out with them since Marcus was born six months ago. We had steak, baked salmon, fruit salad, and mashed potatoes. So yummy. Then we watched Places of the Heart. Sally Fields was so cute!

A fun weekend.

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From:electricia
Date:June 30th, 2008 08:44 am (UTC)
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I just saw Wall-E as well, and overall, I enjoyed it immensely. There were sections early on where I literally forgot I was watching animation. But I was slightly put off by the same things you mention. I felt it bordered on preachy. I'm curious to hear what other objectivish and/or libertarianish folks have to say about it. I wondered if maybe I was being overly sensitive to it.
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From:afb
Date:June 30th, 2008 07:11 pm (UTC)
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I had varied reactions to it -- some things I thought were spot-on, other things I thought were above-and-beyond where we're at and where we're going. To take it point by point:

* The environmental stuff -- preachy and unrealistic. More and more there seems to be a push toward sustainability and environmental cleanup, and for all that Al Gore panics and wheezes about the environment, I don't think things are getting to the "ZOMG EARTH WILL DIE" point anytime soon.

* The corporate stuff -- ditto. Did anyone else think that the idea of Disney distributing a movie where a gigantic corporate entity was the bad guy was hilarious? I sure did. I don't buy the global universalmart, either.

* The obesity/TV stuff: This was so true it made me actually utter "Oh my God" out loud in the theater, much to my embarrassment. (And then I spent a lot of time thinking it for the rest of the movie.) Because that? Is one thing I totally think our society is moving toward. We are a society of people who despise exercise, eat out often, keep the TV on in the background all the time, and can't remember the last time we read a book because we're too busy watching TV or playing video games.

Maybe we, as individuals, escape one or two of the stereotypes that were shown to be the end result of that lifestyle, but the average person sure doesn't. Given the option to let someone else take care of your food, clothing, and shelter, given the option to just watch a screen all the time and never look outside of it, I think almost all people -- certainly almost all Americans -- would take that option in a hot minute. It's not even so much that they would take that option -- I think most people have already taken that option. I seriously think most people live that way. To me, that part of the movie was the terrifying and realistic bit, and it has renewed my interest in getting the hell outside the little box (which in my case is the Internet, not the TV). I wasn't at all surprised by the shock people expressed when they realized, ZOMG, we have a pool! That's exactly what I think people are like.

* Home! It's Earth!: This worried me and troubled me and I didn't buy it. I think most of the people on the ship would want things Exactly How They Were, Please and Thank You.

* The questions raised: So who was continuing to develop the technology of the ship once it set sail, I ask you? What I'm thinking is that there was an underground community of geeks, much like in the Matrix, who were still autonomous and developing and thinking. Kind of like the Eloi and Morlocks, really, although also kind of not, because the Morlocks were not exactly technologically advanced, but you know what I mean.

* And finally, the enjoyment bit: I loved this movie a whole lot. A bit preachy, yes, but I was simultaneously horrified and amused by the development of humanity, and ZOMG ROBOT LOVE. Wall-E was the cutest sentient robot since R2-D2, and EVE was so cute it boggled the mind. Their relationship, start to finish, was so sweet it made me want to cuddle both of them, and it's one of the first developing love stories in a movie that I've believed in in years (as in, I see 'em meet, they fall in love, and I buy it). I would see it again and again and again just for Wall-E and EVE's initial meetings and all the ways in which they interact. And I am still looking forward to the next Pixar movie like there's no tomorrow. :)
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From:kimeidoplex
Date:June 30th, 2008 03:27 pm (UTC)
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Ya- I can do/enjoy the boy talk, but not to the point that you can't have a real conversation ;-)

Glad you sat across from me and we got to talk.
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From:crasch
Date:June 30th, 2008 05:56 pm (UTC)
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Me too!
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From:(Anonymous)
Date:July 1st, 2008 03:54 pm (UTC)
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Wall-E is a delightful film. It is so good that, despite the fact that it features each and every single annoying liberal meme, all the commenters here decided to "just get over it" and enjoy the show. Previous commenters have pointed out most of the memes but they did forget to mention the "Obligatory Gender Reversal" (OGR) meme; Wall-E is smaller than EVE, more empathic and nurturing, less powerful, less violent and more introspective.
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