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Feb. 4th, 2008

02:17 pm - Candid’s guide to your presidential nominees

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candid’s voting guide pretty much reflects my own sentiment. Except I would vote for Hillary before Obama. A large percentage of the population hates her guts, so she would likely be less effective in getting her agenda passed.

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From:astroprisoner
Date:February 4th, 2008 09:29 pm (UTC)
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I would argue on the other hand that Obama's complete lack of experience would hamstring him much more effectively than Clinton's lack of popularity. Clinton may not be liked, but she has decades of political savvy to draw upon.

The parallel to Obama that I keep seeing is Massachusetts governor Deval Patrick, who took office a year ago...his first-ever elected office. He's got a personality similar to Obama.

Despite the fact that he's a Democratic governor in a heavily Democratic state, working with a state legislature that is (to put it mildly) dominated by Democrats...he can't get a damn thing done. And this despite the fact that most of the state residents actually like him.

But what happens is that Gov. Patrick makes a proposal, and the Senate President simply smiles, says "No," and goes about proposing the things he wants to do. Gov. Patrick has repeatedly tried to advance a plan for casinos in this state, and it repeatedly dies on the first step because the Senate President is opposed to the idea.

I think the only two things the governor has gotten accomplished so far are 1) new drapes for his office, and 2) buying a new limo.

And I am not making that up.

Yeah, if the goal is political paralysis...Obama is the man.
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From:crasch
Date:February 4th, 2008 09:33 pm (UTC)
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Hmmm...good point. Except that I believe Obama has hired a lot of (Bill) Clinton's old staffers. Do you think their experience can make up for his lack?
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From:astroprisoner
Date:February 5th, 2008 12:36 am (UTC)
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I don't think the staff makes up for the lack of experience. Ultimately it has to be the chief executive who calls the shots, schmmozes the opposition, and who has the power to keep the promises that seal the deals. Staffers don't have the weight, or the power to make promises.
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From:lucystag
Date:February 4th, 2008 10:39 pm (UTC)
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God, let me just say how much I love people who have earnest debate over which candidate is less likely to get things done, and whichever one that is, they're your (wo)man. Or closer to being your man. Beautiful. I love you all who pray for gridlock.

I refuse to even theoretically choose a lesser of evils. My stomach can't take it.
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From:crasch
Date:February 5th, 2008 08:37 am (UTC)
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When faced with inevitable evil, pray for incompetent evil.
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