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Jul. 6th, 2007

11:40 am - Ron Paul has more cash on hand than McCain

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From:evokate
Date:July 7th, 2007 03:41 pm (UTC)
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In religious discussions, I've noticed a tendency for folks when defending their religion to view "heretics" as worse than "atheists." The heretic's beliefs are at least within the same mythos, the same realm. The heretic is dangerous... the heretic might more easily "convert" someone who already believes in the same core mythos, albeit with mildly different details. The atheist, though... how can one even have a discussion with them? The atheist is so far removed as to be less of a threat to potential adherents to your own religion. Note of course that I bring this up for metaphorical point, seeing as I'm an atheist personally. :)

I think I initially fell into that trap, that line of thinking, when first considering Ron Paul. There are many details of his political philosophy with which I disagree strongly. But the fact is, he is merely the "heretic" in this scenario. He is the only candidate that I'm aware of that even comes within a parsec of my own views toward government and of freedom. The others seem to reside in an entirely different universe bafflingly devoid of reason.

So, despite moderate misgivings, he's the first republican candidate I've ever donated to. He's the first I've ever even considered voting for. Well... if I were the type who actually voted.

Great journal, btw!
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From:pasquin
Date:July 7th, 2007 04:38 pm (UTC)
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Interesting point. Logically deduced. But wouldn't someone who repudiates an entire philosophy be more threatening? There's a reason 90% of americans say they won't vote for an atheist while more than half are willing to vote for someone of a different faith.

During the inquisition people were often condemned as atheists even though you espoused a belief in a god. Just a different one.
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From:evokate
Date:July 7th, 2007 05:17 pm (UTC)
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See, you're taking all the fun out of my attempt at diatribe along the counterintuitive line of thought. Hmph. :P

That 90% of americans wouldn't vote for a candidate espousing religious views utterly contrary to their own... well that's just boringly obvious.

So yes, you're right of course. Spoilsport.

But that said, I don't follow your point about the inquisitions. In all four of the major inquisitions, people who were devout Catholics could be condemned for relatively minor heresies. In fact, during most of these periods, due to legalities involved, the Catholic church only had jurisdiction over baptized members of the Church. Non-Christians were instead typically tried in the secular courts, as were those accused of witchcraft.

And it wasn't like you'd be made dead for, say, being a Gnostic, but made "even deader" for being an outright atheist. Particular inquisition periods had their own favorite whipping boys, e.g. recent converts from Hinduism during the Portuguese inquisition. But from what I've read, all of them tended to stray into the realm of eliminating all sorts of political undesirables, regardless of how minor the charges of heresy they trumped up.
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From:crasch
Date:July 8th, 2007 09:36 pm (UTC)
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Thanks! That's an interesting analysis, one I hadn't heard before. And I think you're right--Ron Paul is a heretic in the church of Republicanism. Which is why he seems to raise such antipathy among some neocons, despite his history of rock-solid support of theoretical Republican values (small government, individual liberty, low taxes).

Of course, I also agree that he's a flawed candidate. But good gravy! I'm not waiting until Christ returns so that I can vote for the perfect candidate. He's a far better candidate at the margin than the others, and even if he loses, it will give future candidates reason to pander to freedom lovers for a change.

Glad you like the journal! Where are you, if I may ask?
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From:evokate
Date:July 8th, 2007 10:09 pm (UTC)
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I have heard rumors that there remain a handful of small government supporters still within the ranks of the Republican party, but I've yet to manage to catch one on film... elusive creatures. I'm beginning to suspect they're mythical, much like unicorns, Jesus, and William Shatner's hair.

I'm in south florida.
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