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Feb. 15th, 2007

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From:phanatic
Date:February 16th, 2007 01:36 am (UTC)
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And as for f), you probably won't see a stronger incentive than the House of Saud has to suppress radicals. I mean, go and find some stronger "business ties" than exist between America and Saudi Arabia.

And yet, that's not enough.
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From:crasch
Date:February 16th, 2007 01:44 am (UTC)
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Yes, and high do you think that the terrorist rate would be if those ties between the House of Saud and the U.S. didn't exist?
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From:phanatic
Date:February 16th, 2007 02:00 am (UTC)
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Waitasecond.

You claimed that, with open borders, we'd have closer ties with other nations, and those closer ties would encourage their leaders to clamp down on extremists.

Stipulating for the moment that the extremism is something that can be mitigated by a fascist state clamping down on it, it looks like you're now implying that extremism is caused by those very same ties.

Which is it? If the terrorist rate is what it is because of ties between Saud and the US, then why would opening our borders and increasing our ties reduce it?
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From:crasch
Date:February 16th, 2007 06:58 am (UTC)
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I'm claiming that the business ties between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia have reduced terrorist attacks from Saudi Arabia, and that in the absence of those ties, terrorist attacks on the U.S. of a Saudi origin would've been larger.
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