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Feb. 15th, 2007

09:38 am - Anne Frank's family denied visa to the U.S.

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From:ernunnos
Date:February 15th, 2007 07:59 pm (UTC)
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Well, that's a self-fulfilling prophecy, isn't it? If you don't try, you can't succeed. Even if you don't convince me, you could conceivably use me to hone the arguments you'd need to convince thousands of other pragmatists. But you won't even try. Of course, if you don't try can't fail, either. Except that by refusing to even attempt to make a case, you are failing. You will never appeal to anyone outside of those who already accept your ideological premise that freedom of movement across international borders is the one freedom that matters, the only aspect of quality of life worth mentioning.

And they already agree with you. So what have you gained?

And do you think I'm happy or sad that my political opponents like to waste their time preaching to the choir?

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From:crasch
Date:February 15th, 2007 08:26 pm (UTC)
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There is some merit to argument that I will hone my arguments by arguing with you.

But assuming my goal is to repeal immigration laws, what is the best way to spend my time? Is the best way to spend time arguing with you on LJ? Who is going to read or care about it, other than a few of our friends?

I'd rather spend the time earning more money to finance iniatives that will reach a wider population. Not to mention spending time with my girlfriend, reading, etc.
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From:ernunnos
Date:February 15th, 2007 08:39 pm (UTC)
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Oh, you've got plenty of time to waste online. It's only when the call for pragmatic evidence goes out that you get the vapors and have to take a liedown.
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