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Dec. 8th, 2005

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Argh.

Repeats to self: "Don't get into religious arguments. Don't get into religious arguments."

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From:herbaliser
Date:December 8th, 2005 06:38 am (UTC)
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Yeah. You should know better than that; weren't you raised Mormon with all the sophistry that entails?
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From:crasch
Date:December 8th, 2005 06:49 am (UTC)
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Indeed. I do know better. And yet I sometimes succumb to the temptation.
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From:crasch
Date:December 8th, 2005 07:50 am (UTC)
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While there is some perverse pleasure, in retrospect, I would rather I had spent the time on more profitable projects.
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From:serratia
Date:December 8th, 2005 12:34 pm (UTC)
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Your last comment was excellent, and I agree completely. It's one thing to have a personal religious experience and to keep it to oneself. It's another thing entirely to trumpet that theology to the four corners of the Earth; insisting that not only is it your belief but rather it is the Absolute Capital-T Truth and it applies to all humans everywhere.

Orthodoxy Xianity and Mormonism are two examples of organizations which make this grandiose claim (but for opposite reasons). Orthodoxy occupies the argumentum ad antiquitatem end of the spectrum, while Mormonism serves as its argumentum ad novitatem foil.

I have two friends (a married couple) who recently converted from some flavor of mainstream Protestantism to Orthodoxy. They keep a blog, and it has been interesting to see how much more religion has expanded to consume their entire lives since their conversion. They have been openly accepted into the online Orthodox community and anything they post along the Orthodox Party Line is immediately greeted with rousing cheers of agreement and support.

Even when the subject is something like weeping/bleeding icons, there is no critical thought apparent among the many commenters. It's GroupThink to the nth degree, right down to my friends' frequent remarks about how they'd like to read such-and-such book (on the subject of religious history) but that they have to "check it out first" with their "spiritual father."

Whaaaaaa? You're an adult and you need to get someone's permission to read a book?

But I digress...
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From:frauhedgehog
Date:December 8th, 2005 02:17 pm (UTC)
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"Religion consists of a set of things which the average man thinks he believes and wishes he was certain" --Mark Twain
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From:gentlemaitresse
Date:December 8th, 2005 03:10 pm (UTC)
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It was interesting to read, anyway, even if you wish you'd spent that time more profitably.

I am always amused at the "personal relationship with the living christ" statements. How exactly does one have a relationship with something that doesn't exist, doesn't speak, you can't see, etc?

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