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October 22nd, 2001 - Open Knowledge — LiveJournal

Oct. 22nd, 2001

12:53 am - U.S. Government Contemplates Torture

Silence of 4 Terror Probe Suspects Poses Dilemma

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/nation/specials/attacked/A27748-2001Oct20.html

By Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, October 21, 2001; Page A06

FBI and Justice Department investigators are increasingly frustrated by the silence of jailed suspected associates of Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network, and some are beginning to that say that traditional civil liberties may have to be cast aside if they are to extract information about the Sept. 11 attacks and terrorist plans.

More than 150 people rounded up by law enforcement officials in the aftermath of the attacks remain in custody, but attention has focused on four suspects held in New York who the FBI believes are withholding valuable information.

FBI agents have offered the suspects the prospect of lighter sentences, money, jobs, and a new identity and life in the United States for them and their family members, but they have not succeeded in getting information from them, according to law enforcement sources.

"We're into this thing for 35 days and nobody is talking," a senior FBI official said, adding that "frustration has begun to appear."

Said one experienced FBI agent involved in the investigation: "We are known for humanitarian treatment, so basically we are stuck. . . . Usually there is some incentive, some angle to play, what you can do for them. But it could get to that spot where we could go to pressure . . . where we won't have a choice, and we are probably getting there."

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01:21 am - A time-consuming and tricky chore....

http://www.mamaraga.com/id29.htm

"....This electronic tool dates back to the turn of the century, the oldest mass-marketed model being manufactured by the Weiss Instrument Manufacturing Company in the 1890's. It predated both the vacuum cleaner and the iron by a decade and was preceded only by the fan, teakettle and toaster. The tool consisted of a simple electrical motor with a handle of wood or Bakelite, and the entire contraption generally weighed between 5 and 15 pounds, and sold for $5 to $20 (for the model in the velvet lined box with brass fittings). It was marketed in women's magazines between ads for Ivory soap and emmenagogue (abortion-inducing herbs) - and the ads generally showed women pulling down their dresses and applying this tool to their necks and shoulders and promised that the effect would be "thrilling", "invigorating" and "all the penetrating pleasures of youth will throb in you again".

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03:13 pm - P.J. O'Rourke at the Stanford Bookstore tomorrow.

If you're in the Bay Area, P.J. O'Rourke will be giving a lecture and reading excerpts from his book "CEO of the Sofa" at the Stanford Bookstore, at 7:00 p.m. tomorrow.

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